قسيس مسيحي يقول (المسيح لم يصلب على الصليب )

[بَرثُولَماوُس]

اقتباس شكك عالم دين مسيحي في الاعتقاد السائد لدى المسيحيين بأن السيد المسيح عيسى بن مريم مات مصلوبا، قائلا إنه لا يوجد دليل بأن الرومان كانوا يصلبون المساجين قبل 2000 عام.

عالم دين مسيحى يشكك فى أيمان المسيحييون .؟
لاحول ولاقوة الا بالمسيح
هو مسيحى من ديانة غي المسيحيية .؟

اقتباس ونسبت صحيفة ديلي تلغراف البريطانية إلى عالم اللاهوت غونار صمويلسون القول إن "أسطورة إعدام" المسيح عليه السلام تستند إلى تقاليد الكنيسة المسيحية وإلى صور الرسَّامين أكثر منها إلى النصوص القديمة.

هل رأيت اللون الاحمر هذا هذا دليل من الادالة على أن المسيح صلب وهو ليس معاك بل عليك

اقتباس شكك عالم دين مسيحي في الاعتقاد السائد لدى المسيحيين بأن السيد المسيح عيسى بن مريم مات مصلوبا، قائلا إنه لا يوجد دليل بأن الرومان كانوا يصلبون المساجين قبل 2000 عام.

لا فى الجاهل من يتقول بهذ الكلام


لذلك يقول The New International Dictionary Of The Bible:

Crucifixion was one of the most cruel and barbarous forms of death known to man. It was practiced, especially in the times of war, by the Phoenicians, Carthaginians, Egyptians, and later by the Romans. So dreaded was it that even in the pre-Christian era, the cares and troubles of the life were often compared to a cross

قاموس للكتاب المقدس اخر هو قاموس تندال صفحة 337

. Evidently crucifixion was practiced first by the Medes and Persians and later by Alexander the Great (356–323 bc), the Carthaginians, and the Romans. Both Greeks and Romans restricted its use to slaves, considering it too barbaric for citizens. In the imperial era the Romans extended the use to foreigners, but even so it was used mainly for crimes against the state.

Crucifixion was universally recognized as the most horrible type of execution
In the East, in fact, it was used only as a further sign of disgrace for prisoners already executed, usually by decapitation. .


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Elwell, W. A., & Comfort, P. W. (2001). Tyndale Bible dictionary. Tyndale reference library (337). Wheaton, Ill.: Tyndale House Publishers

The penalty of the cross goes back probably to the arbor infelix, or unhappy tree, spoken of by Cicero (Pro, Rabir., iii sqq.) and by Livy, apropos of the condemnation of Horatius after the murder of his sister. According to Hüschke (Die Multa, 190) the magistrates known as duoviri perduellionis pronounced this penalty (cf. Liv., I, 266), styled also infelix lignem (Senec., Ep. ci; Plin., XVI, xxvi; XXIV, ix; Macrob., II, xvi). This primitive form of crucifixion on trees was long in use, as Justus Lipsius notes ("De cruce", I, ii, 5; Tert., "Apol.", VIII, xvi; and "Martyrol. Paphnut." 25 Sept.). Such a tree was known as a cross (crux). On an ancient vase we see Prometheus bound to a beam which serves the purpose of a cross. A somewhat different form is seen on an ancient cist at Præneste (Palestrina), upon which Andromeda is represented nude, and bound by the feet to an instrument of punishment like a military yoke — i.e. two parallel, perpendicular stakes, surmounted by a transverse bar. Certain it is, at any rate, that the cross originally consisted of a simple vertical pole, sharpened at its upper end. Mæcenas (Seneca, Epist. xvii, 1, 10) calls it acuta crux; it could also be called crux simplex. To this upright pole a transverse bar was afterwards added to which the sufferer was fastened with nails or cords, and thus remained until he died, whence the expression cruci figere or affigere (Tac., "Ann.", XV, xliv; Potron., "Satyr.", iii)

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