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Here is another incident where Jesus was asked the same exact question by another person:

Luke 18
18. A certain ruler asked him, "Good teacher, what must I do to inherit eternal life?"
19. "Why do you call me good?" Jesus answered. "No one is good--except God alone.
20. You know the commandments: 'Do not commit adultery, do not murder, do not steal, do not give false testimony, honor your father and mother.' "
21. "All these I have kept since I was a boy," he said.
22. When Jesus heard this, he said to him, "You still lack one thing. Sell everything you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me."
23. When he heard this, he became very sad, because he was a man of great wealth.
24. Jesus looked at him and said, "How hard it is for the rich to enter the kingdom of God!
25. Indeed, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God."
26. Those who heard this asked, "Who then can be saved?"
27. Jesus replied, "What is impossible with men is possible with God."
28. Peter said to him, "We have left all we had to follow you!"
29. "I tell you the truth," Jesus said to them, "no one who has left home or wife or brothers or parents or children for the sake of the kingdom of God
30. will fail to receive many times as much in this age and, in the age to come, eternal life."

Again, we see in Luke 18:18 above, the same exact question was asked to Jesus for the second time on a different occasion


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بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم
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Who is it that takes away the sins of the world? In that same book of John, John the Baptist says: John 1:29 The next day John saw Jesus coming toward him, and said, “Behold! The Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world!

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Now how could a sinful person take away sin? No, this person had to be sinless. This person had to be God alone Who could fulfill His Law.


Very nice
let us check together the bible if Jesus was really sinless according to it


now let me ask you what do you call the following sins of Jesus in the bible


1- Treating his mother in a bad way
John 2 -New American Standard Bible
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John%202&version=NASB
3When the wine ran out, the mother of Jesus said to Him, "They have no wine."

4And Jesus said to her, " Woman, what does that have to do with us? My hour has not yet come."

2- Killing 2000 pig without reason
Mark 5 -New American Standard Bible
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=mark%205&version=NASB
11Now there was a large herd of swine feeding nearby on the mountain.

12The demons implored Him, saying, "Send us into the swine so that we may enter them."

13Jesus gave them permission. And coming out, the unclean spirits entered the swine; and the herd rushed down the steep bank into the sea, about two thousand of them; and they were drowned in the sea.

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more and more sins of Jesus in the bible



3- He treated a women very badly while she was asking him for help
Mark 7 -New American Standard Bible
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...7&version=NASB
26Now the woman was a Gentile, of the Syrophoenician race. And she kept asking Him to cast the demon out of her daughter.

27And He was saying to her, "Let the children be satisfied first, for it is not good to take the children's bread and throw it to the dogs."

4- Saying to peter (Disciple of Jesus) that he is Satan
33But turning around and seeing His disciples, He rebuked Peter and said, "Get behind Me, Satan; for you are not setting your mind on God's interests, but man's."


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5- Christ come to cast fire upon earth according to bible
Christ Divides Men
49"I have come to cast fire upon the earth; and how I wish it were already kindled!

50"But I have a baptism to undergo, and how distressed I am until it is accomplished!
51" Do you suppose that I came to grant peace on earth? I tell you, no, but rather division;
52for from now on five members in one household will be divided, three against two and two against three.
53"They will be divided, father against son and son against father, mother against daughter and daughter against mother, mother-in-law against daughter-in-law and daughter-in-law against mother-in-law
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6- Jesus stole a donkey and colt
Matthew 21 -New American Standard Bible
2saying to them, "Go into the village opposite you, and immediately you will find a donkey tied there and a colt with her; untie them and bring them to Me.

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This is a very good research about Jesus, it is very useful and I think I will share it with one of my friends who is christian "Orthodox".

Thanks for this research,, and keep going





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7- Insulting people
Luke 11-New International Version
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...11&version=NIV
39Then the Lord said to him, "Now then, you Pharisees clean the outside of the cup and dish, but inside you are full of greed and wickedness. 40You foolish people! Did not the one who made the outside make the inside also?

8- He asked his disciples not to give peace to those who do not deserve
Matthew 10 -New American Standard Bible
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13"If the house is worthy, give it your blessing of peace. But if it is not worthy, take back your blessing of peace





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9- He wanted to slay his enemies in front of him

Luke 19 - New American Standard Bible
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27"But these enemies of mine, who did not want me to reign over them, bring them here and slay them in my presence."

10- Jesus asked his disciples to use worldly wealth to gain friends

Luke 16 - New International Version
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...16&version=NIV
9I tell you, use worldly wealth to gain friends for yourselves, so that when it is gone, you will be welcomed into eternal dwellings.





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11- Jesus asked his disciples to sell what they have and buy sword
Luke 22 -New International Version
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36He said to them, "But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don't have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one

12 - Jesus insult his disciples

Luke 24- New International Version
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25He said to them, "How foolish you are, and how slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken!





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Matt. 1: 18 Now the birth of Jesus Christ was as follows: After His mother Mary was betrothed to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Spirit. 19 Then Joseph her husband, being a just man, and not wanting zto make her a public example, was minded to put her away secretly. 20 But while he thought about these ‎... مشاهدة المزيد‎things, behold, an angel of the Lord appeared to him in a dream, saying, “Joseph, son of David, do not be afraid to take to you Mary your wife, afor that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Spirit. 21 And she will bring forth a Son, and you shall call His name 8esus,cfor He will save His people from their sins.”



where is the evidence of divinity of Jesus in this paragraph
i hope that you revise the following paragraph once again
Why do we have to consider Jesus as the Creator of this Universe or someone who is equal to GOD just because GOD had put His spirit in Jesus, and not consider the many others who carried GOD's spirit above as equal to GOD?



Others who carried GOD's Spirit in them:


Numbers 24:2 "When Balaam looked out and saw Israel encamped tribe by tribe, the Spirit of God came upon him"
Judges 3:10 "The Spirit of the LORD came upon him, so that he became Israel's judge and went to war. The LORD gave Cushan-Rishathaim king of Aram into


the hands of Othniel, who overpowered him

."
Judges 6:34 "Then the Spirit of the LORD came upon Gideon, and he blew a trumpet, summoning the Abiezrites to follow him."


Judges 11:29 "Then the Spirit of the LORD came upon Jephthah. He crossed Gilead and Manasseh, passed through Mizpah of Gilead, and from there he advanced against the Ammonites."

Judges 14:6 "The Spirit of the LORD came upon him in power so that he tore the lion apart with his bare hands as he might have torn a young goat. But he told
neither his father nor his mother what he had done."

Judges 14:19 "Then the Spirit of the LORD came upon him in power. He went down to Ashkelon, struck down thirty of their men, stripped them of their belongings and gave their clothes to those who had explained the riddle. Burning with anger, he went up to his father's house."


Judges 15:14 "As he approached Lehi, the Philistines came toward him shouting. The Spirit of the LORD came upon him in power. The ropes on his arms became like charred flax, and the bindings dropped from his hands."
1 Samuel 10:6 "The Spirit of the LORD will come upon you in power, and you will prophesy with them; and you will be changed into a different person."
1 Samuel 10:10 "When they arrived at Gibeah, a procession of prophets met him; the Spirit of God came upon him in power, and he joined in their prophesying."


1 Samuel 11:6 "When Saul heard their words, the Spirit of God came upon him in power, and he burned with anger."


1 Samuel 16:13 "So Samuel took the horn of oil and anointed him in the presence of his brothers, and from that day on the Spirit of the LORD came upon David in power. Samuel then went to Ramah."


1 Samuel 16:16 "Let our lord command his servants here to search for someone who can play the harp. He will play when the evil spirit from God comes upon you, and you will feel better." GOD HAS AN EVIL SPIRIT??!!
1 Samuel 16:23 "Whenever the spirit from God came upon Saul, David would take his harp and play. Then relief would come to Saul; he would feel better, and the evil spirit would leave him."


1 Samuel 18:10 "The next day an evil spirit from God came forcefully upon Saul. He was prophesying in his house, while David was playing the harp, as he usually did. Saul had a spear in his hand..." ANOTHER EVIL SPIRIT FROM GOD??!!
1 Samuel 19:9 "But an evil spirit from the LORD came upon Saul as he was sitting in his house with his spear in his hand. While David was playing the harp,..." ANOTHER EVIL SPIRIT FROM GOD??!!
1 Kings 22:23 "God sent LYING SPIRITS to lie to people" Does GOD lie?!
1 Samuel 19:20 "so he sent men to capture him. But when they saw a group of prophets prophesying, with Samuel standing there as their leader, the Spirit of God came upon Saul's men and they also prophesied."


1 Samuel 19:23 "So Saul went to Naioth at Ramah. But the Spirit of God came even upon him, and he walked along prophesying until he came to Naioth."


2 Chronicles 15:1 "The Spirit of God came upon Azariah son of Oded."


Ezekiel 11:5 "Then the Spirit of the LORD came upon me, and he told me to say: "This is what the LORD says: That is what you are saying, O house of Israel, but I know what is going through your mind."


Ezekiel 37:1 "The hand of the LORD was upon me, and he brought me out by the Spirit of the LORD and set me in the middle of a valley; it was full of bones."


Luke 1:35 "The angel answered, "The Holy Spirit will come upon you (Mary), and the power of the Most High will overshadow you. So the holy one to be born will be called the Son of God."
Luke 2:25 "Now there was a man in Jerusalem called Simeon, who was righteous and devout. He was waiting for the consolation of Israel, and the Holy Spirit was upon him."





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