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Authenticity of the Bible

Bible's testimony toward the scribes

[Jer. 8:8] How can you say we are wise and the law of the Lord is with us. Behold, THE FALSE PEN OF THE SCRIBES TURNED IT INTO A LIE.

[Jer. 6:10] Behold, the word of the Lord is unto them a reproach, they have no delight in it.. From the least of them even unto the greatest of them, every one is given to covetousness, and FROM THE PROPHET EVENT UNTO THE PRIEST, EVERY ONE DEALS FALSELY.

[Jer 14:14] The prophets prophesy lies in my name: I sent them not neither have I commanded them, neither spoke unto them. [Jer. 23:31] They use their tongues and say, "HE SAYS". (How similar is that to the verses of the Quran wherein Allah charged the scribes with the same accusation we read "There is among them a section who distort the book with their tongues; in order that you would think it is a part of the book [of revelation] but it is not a part of the book, and they say that is from Allah, but it is not from Allah, it is they who tell a lie and well they know it. (Quran 3:78)"

[Jer. 23:36] And the burden of the Lord shall you mention no more.. For you have perverted the words of the living God.



Both testaments are temporal

[1 Corin. 13:9] For we know in part, and we prophesy in part. BUT WHEN THAT WHICH IS PERFECT IS COME, THEN THAT WHICH IN PART SHALL BE DONE AWAY.
(Paul is giving a prophesy about the coming of the perfect one which cancel his prophesy and knowledge in another word: It makes both the Old and New testament already old, and no more valid, we should recall that Paul wrote his letters long time after Jesus's ascension therefore he was not speaking about the Holy Spirit who was supposed to come directly after the ascension of Jesus. Any way: Christians must look for [the perfect] which cancel the "Previous predictions and revelations of Paul.)



The books of apocrypha

1- Tobit 2- Judith 3- Esther 4- The wisdom of Solomon. 5- Brauch. 6- 1st. Maccabees 7- 2nd. Maccabees

(The term "Apocrypha" refers to the seven Catholic doubtful books which were rejected by the protestants, who removed them from their King James Bible.
The following references [John 14:25] predict about the coming of the Holy Spirit after Jesus leaves, to teach Christians all things.
But the apocryphal books remained in the Bible 16 hundred years, yet the Holy Spirit did not warn them during that long period that their Bible contained seven apocryphal books.

The King James Bible was written and authorized in 1611 a.d., which means that all Christians were kept in deception and there was no role or any coming of the Holy Spirit.

Who shall we believe: Catholics whom their Bible contain 73 books, or Protestants whom their Bible contains 66 books. If it is blasphemy to take even a title from the Bible, who is blaspheming: those who added these seven books from the very beginning, or those who expunged them?)



Apocryphal books in "today English's version"

1- Sirach 2- The letter of Jeremiah 3- The prayer of Azariah and the song of the three young men 4- Susana 5- Bell of the dragon 6- 1st. Esdras 7- 2nd. Esdras 8- The prayer of Manasseh

(There are two different and contradictory copies of that version: one contains these additional books which makes them 81, the other copy does not contain these additional books.)



Apocryphal verses in K.J.V.

(After the removal of seven books from the Catholic Bible, here comes the turn of the K.J. version which became the second victim, and which also became exposed to so many criticisms and doubts.
Every new sect of Christianity gives its own doubt against the K.J. version. It had been revised by 32 of the highest scholars backed by 15 co-operating denominations.
The all agreed in the introduction of the R.S.V, that: "The king James version has grave defects which are so many and so serious".
Therefore, they allowed themselves to omit (through this declaration) many verses from it as you will see in these coming verses.
The Mormons do not trust the K.J.V, the keep it under the watch of their own Mormon's book, the Jehovah witnesses submit that it contains 50,000 errors according to (AWAKE magazine 8 September 1957) and therefore they have their own "modified Bible".
Hence, We ask this : where is the role of the Holy Spirit who was supposed to lead them out of this confusion ?!)

MATHEW 17:21

K.J.V Howbeit this kink goes not out but by prayer and fasting.

R.S.V: Omitted
N.I.V: Omitted
G.N.B: Omitted
L.B.V: Omitted (This Bible is known as the LIVING BIBLE. Published previously in 1962. It represents another great change in its verses and expression in comparison to the other versions of the Bible. According to some Christian authorities it is considered as a shameful Bible.)


MARK 9:44

K.J.V: Where their warm dies not, and the fire is not quenched.

R.S.V: Omitted
G.N.B: Omitted
N.I.V: Omitted
L.B.V: Omitted


MARK 9:46

K.J.V: Where their warm dies not, and the fire is not quenched.

R.S.V: Omitted
N.I.V: Omitted
G.N.B: Omitted
L.B.V: Omitted


MARK 16:9-20

K.J.V: all paragraph from 9 till 20.

R.S.V: Omitted in edition 1952 and restored in recent editions
(The commentators of recent versions admitted at the footnotes of N.I.V AND R.S.V AND L.B.V that these verses were exposed to many additions and insertions saying: "The most reliable manuscripts and other ancient witnesses do not have Mark 16:9-20"

N.I.V: "Verses 9-20 are not found in the most ancient manuscripts, but may be considered an appendix giving additional facts."

L.B.V: "Some of the most ancient authorities bring the book to a close at the end of verse 8.

One authority concludes the book by ADDING after verse 8 the following: 'But they reported briefly to Peter and those with him all that they had been told.. ETC.' Other authorities include the preceding passage and continue with verses 9-20.
In most authorities verses 9-20 follow immediately after verse 8; a few authorities INSERT ADDITIONAL MATERIAL after verse 14." (R.S.V)


LUKE 9:56

K.J.V: For the son of man is not come to destroy men's life, but save.

R.S.V: Omitted
N.I.V: Omitted
G.N.B: Omitted
L.B.V: Omitted


LUKE 17:36

K.J.V.: Two men shall be in the field, the one shall be taken and the other left.

R.S.V: Omitted
N.I.V: Omitted
G.N.B: Omitted


JOHN 5:4

K.J.V: For an angel went down at a certain season into the pool and troubled the water. Whosoever then after the troubling of the water stepped in was made of whatsoever disease he had.

R.S.V: Omitted
N.I.V: Omitted
G.N.B: Omitted


1 JOHN 5:7

K.J.V: For there are three that bear witness in heaven, the father and the word and the Holy Ghost, and these three are one.

R.S.V: Omitted

N.I.V: For there are three that testify: The spirit The water, and the blood and these three are in agreement.

G.N.B: There are three witnesses: The spirit the water and the blood, and all three give the same testimony.

L.B.V: The verses 6,7,8 are totally omitted.


"BEGOTTEN" IS OMITTED JOHN 3:16

K.J.V: For God so love the world that he gave his only begotten son.

R.S.V: For God so love the world that he gave his only son.

N.I.V: For God so love the world that he gave his one and only son.

G.N.B: For God so love the world, so much that he gave his only son.

L.B.V: For God loved the world so much that he gave his only son.


ROMANS 7:15

R.S.V: I do not understand my own actions.

K.J.V: Omitted


MARK 16:19 AND LUKE 24:15 AND JOHN 8:1-10

K.J.V: After the Lord spoke to them he was received up into heaven.

R.S.V: Omitted in 1952 version and restored in the recent publications.

(These verses were omitted in the revised standard version which was published in 1952, the same verses were restored in the next publication of 1972 after great controversy. These verses talk about the ascension of Jesus and the women who were taken in adultery. The Living Bible's commentators stated at its note p.79 that most ancient manuscripts omit John 7:53 - 8:1-11)



Changes of verses

LUKE 22:70

K.J.V: Then they said, "Are you the son of God? He said unto them, "You said that I am."

N.I.V: They all asked, "Are you the son of God? He said, "You are right in saying I am."

L.B.V: They all shouted "Then you claim you are the son of God. And He replied YES I AM."


DUET. 23:2

K.J.V: A BASTARD shall not enter into the congregation of the Lord.

N.I.V: No one born of a forbidden marriage may enter the assembly of the Lord.

G.N.B: No one born out of wedlock may be included among the Lord's people.


HEBREW 12:8

K.J.V: Then you are BASTARDS, and not sons.

R.S.V: Then you are illegitimate children and not sons.

G.N.B: It means you are not real sons, but BASTARDS.

L.B.V: It means that you are not God's son at all.


JOB 13:15

K.J.V: Though he slay me yet I trust him.

R.S.V: He will slay me, I have no hope.

G.N.B: I've lost all hope so what if God kills me.

L.B.V: God may kill me for saying this-in fact, I expect him to.


PSALMS 2:7

K.J.V: David said, "God said to me: You are my son, this day I have begotten you.

N.I.V: David said, "God said to me: You are my son today I have become your father.
(The N.I.V revisers analyzed that the word begotten should not be attributed to both David, and Jesus, while Jesus should be the only begotten son of God as John 3:16 proclaims. Yet by this modification of this verse -as well as others- they attract the attention of the people how the false pen of the SCRIBES change the word of God as Jeremiah 8:8 proclaimed.)


Rom. 7:15

RSV: I do not understand my own actions.

KJV: For what which I do I allow not.

NIV: I do not understand what to do.

LBV: I do not understand myself at all.


Lamentation 3:18

KJV: My strength, and my hope is perished from the Lord.
NIV My splendour is gone, and all that I had hoped from the Lord.

GNB: I do not have much to live, my hope in the Lord is gone. Gone is my glory and my expectation from the Lord.

LBV: All hope is gone, my strenght has turned to water, for the Lord has left me.


Ezekiel 16:25

KJV: And had opened your feet to everyone that passed by.

RSV: Offering yourself to any passers-by.

NIV: Offering your body with increasing promiscuity to one who passed by.

LBV: You offered your beauty to every man who came by.

DRV: And had prostituted thyself to everyone that passed by.


Isaiah 49:24

KJV: They should bow down on their faces to the ground and lick the dust of your feet.

GNB: They should humble themselves to you and show you respect.


LEVITICUS 15:20

K.J.V: And everything that she lies upon in her separation shall be unclean.

R.S.V: And everything upon which she lies in her impurity shall be unclean.

L.B.V: Anything she lies on sits on during that time shall be defiled.


BETWEEN ACTS 9:3 AND ACTS 22:9

K.J.V: They saw the light, but they heard not the voice.

N.I.V: They saw the light, but they did not understand the voice.
(The reason behind the change in this verse is because of the contradiction between Act. 9:3 and Act. 22:9 which they attempted to cover. We find that modification in the N.I.V.)


ANOTHER ADDITION IN G.N.B.

G.N.B: The women went to Peter and his friends, and gave a brief account of all they had been told.

R.S.V: Does not exist
N.I.V: Does not exist
K.J.V: Does not exist



Changing red ink to black

JOHN 17:12

K.J.V: Those which you have given me I lost none but one. (red)

L.B.V: Those which you have given me I lost none but one. (black)


JOHN 18:9

K.J.V: Those which you have given me I lost none. (red)

L.B.V: Those which you have given me I lost none. (black)


REVELATION OF JOHN

Almost 79 of the red Ink verses in the book of revelation were changed into black !!



Why did Luke write his Gospel ?

[Luke 1:1] For as much as many have taken in order a declaration of these things which are most surely believed among us. Even as they DELIVERED THEM UNTO US, WHICH FROM THE BEGINNING WERE EYEWITNESSED AND MINISTERS OF THE WORD: IT SEEMED GOOD TO ME also, having had perfect understanding of all things from the very first to write unto you in order, MOST EXCELLENT THE-OPH'-I-LUS,
(the church tried to know : who is that The-oph'-i-lus, Luke's close friend. However, there are some Christians today claim that this is not a name of a person, but a Greek word which means "People".
* I do not understand why the whole Bible was translated into English except for this word!
* And if such: what is the value of keeping it ?
* And they start this "so called" Greek word with a capital letter ?
* And who was "most excellent" to Luke ? The people or his friend: The-oph'-i- lus ?

This is how they defend the error by making another error, it is in fact another trick, by this they attempt to avoid the difficulties which this paragraph creates. The fact that this introduction of Luke's Gospel makes his Gospel no more than a personal letter.) that you MIGHT KNOW THE CERTAINTY of those things wherein you have been instructed.

(This paragraph indicates three essential points:
* Luke was not an eyewitness to Jesus peace be with him.
* He did not claim that he was inspired, but it seemed good idea to him to write his book. * His book was only a message to his friend, not to the world.)



Did Moses write Deuteronomy ?

[Deut. 34:5] So Moses the servant of the Lord DIED there in the land of Moab according to the word of the Lord. And he buried him in a valley, but no man KNEW HIS SEPULCHRE UNTO THIS DAY. And Moses was an hundred and twenty years old when he died.



Did Mathew write his Gospel ?

[Math. 9:9] And as Jesus passed forth from thence, he saw a man names Mathew, sitting at the receipt of custom: and he said unto him: Follow me. And he arose, and followed him.



Did John write his Gospel ?

[John 21:24] This is the disciple which testifies of these things, and wrote these things: And we know that his testimony is true.



Is God speaking in these verses ?

[Psalm 10:1] Why do you stand a far off, O Lord, why do you HIDE YOURSELF in times of trouble ?

[Psalm 89:46] HOW LONG, O LORD ? WILL YOU HIDE YOURSELF FOREVER ? How long will your wrath burn like fire ?

[Lam. 3:18] My strength and MY HOPE IS PERISHED FROM THE LORD.



The cloak that Paul left

[2 Timo. 4:9] This book, of "Timothy" is in fact a letter from Paul to his close friend Timothy, for example he said to him "Do your diligence to come shortly unto me.. The cloak that I left at Tro'-as with Carpus, when you come, bring with you, and the books. But specially the parchments.



God's revelation or Paul's ?!!

[Gal. 5:2] Behold, I Paul, say unto you, that if you be circumcised Christ shall profit you nothing.

[1 Corin. 7:10] And unto the married I command, yet not I, but the Lord.. 12 Butto the rest I SPEAK, NOT THE LORD. 25 Now concerning virgins I HAVE NO COMMAND OF THE LORD YET I GIVE MY JUDGMENT.



Paul is responsible

[1 Corin. 9:19] Paul said: I made myself slave to all, that I might win the more. To the Jews I became as a Jew, in order to win Jews. To those under the law I became as under the law-though not being under the law- that I might win those under the law. To those outside the law I became as one outside the law-not being without law toward God but under the law of Christ.



The disciples of Jesus accuse Paul

[Acts 21:20] They said to him, "How many thousands of Jews there are which believe, and they are zealous of the law: and they are informed of you, that you teach all the jews which are among the GENTILES to forsake Moses, saying that they ought not to circumcise their children, neither to walk after the customs." THEREFORE HE WAS COMPLAINING TO TIMOTHY THAT ALL OF THEM DOUBTED HIM AND LEFT HIM SAYING:

[1 Timo. 1:15] You know that all they which are in Asia be turned away from me.

[2 Timo. 4:16] Alexander the coppersmith did me much evil, the Lord reward him according to his works. Of whom you be ware also, for he has greatly withstood our wards. At my first answer no man stood with me.



Paul called the Law old !

[Gal. 5:4] Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law, YOU ARE FALLEN FROM GRACE.

[Rom 7:6] But now we are DELIVERED FROM THE LAW.

[Gal. 2:16] A man is NOT JUSTIFIED BY WORKS of the law, but by faith of Jesus Christ. (this idea of Paul contradicts absolutely the book of James 20:1 and the book of Ezekiel 14:14 "They should deliver but their own souls by their righteousness". It even contradicts what Paul himself said that "God will render to every man according to his deeds." [Rom. 2:6]) For if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.

[Gal. 3:10] For as many as are of the works of the law are UNDER THE CURSE.

[2 Corin. 3:6] God made us able ministers of the new testament.



Finally he cancelled it !!!

[Heb. 8:13] Paul said, "In that He [God] said, "A new covenant." He had made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old: is ready to VANISH AWAY.



Does Paul respect Jesus ?!!

[Gal. 3:13] Paul said: Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law, having become a curse for us. (Let those who truthfully love Jesus the Christ remember that this great Prophet was cursed in their Bible. For it is enough and great blasphemy in Islam to refer to Jesus such horrible description. High is Jesus above what their description of him.) For it is written: Cursed be everyone who hangs on a tree.



Is Paul sinful ?!!!

[Gal 2:15] He said: We who are Jews by nature, and NOT SINNERS of the Gentiles.

[Rom. 7:15] But he also said: I do not understand my own action. For I do not do what I want, but I do the very thing I hate.

Now if I do what I do not want, I agree that the law is good. So then it is no longer I that I do it, but SIN WHICH DWELLS WITHIN ME, that is in my flesh.

I can will what is right, but I can not do it, for I do not do the good I want, but the evil I do not want is what I do.

Now if I do not want, it is no longer that I do it, but SIN WHICH DWELLS WITHIN ME. So I find it to be a law that when I want to do right evil lies close at hand.

For I delight in the law of God in my inmost self. but I see my members another law at war with the law of my mind and making me captive to the law of SIN WHICH DWELLS IN MY MEMBERS.

Wretched man that I am, who will deliver me from this body of death. (I will suggest that you present Paul's confession to the Born agains' and ask them how come the spirit of Evil fits in his holy body of a saint and hinders him from doing good, while he has the spirit of God in him at the same time revealing to him your new testament which you recite today? what is the use of the Holy spirit if it does not defeat that evil spirit in his body, it is impossible for you to receive the Holy Spirit. Therefore you so not have the Holy Spirit in your bodies, but there is "A SPIRIT" in it.)



Astonishing Biblical stories

An agreement between the trees !!

[Judg. 9:8] The trees went forth on a time to anoint a king over them, and they said unto the olive tree: Reign you over us. But the OLIVE TREE SAID unto them: Should I leave my fatness, wherewith by me they honour God and man and go to be promoted over the trees?

And the TREES SAID TO THE FIG TREE, "Come you, and reign over us. But the fig tree said unto them, should I forsake my sweetness and my good fruit, and go to be promoted over the trees?

Then said the trees unto the vine: Come you and reign over us. And the vine said unto them, "Should I leave my wine which cheers God and man, and go to be promoted over the trees? (Why does wine cheer God ?!!!)

Then said all the trees unto the bramble: Come you and reign over us. And THE BRAMBLE SAID unto the trees, if in truth you anoint me king over you, them come and put your trust in my shadow: and if not, let fire come out of the bramble, and devour the cedars of Lebanon.



Remarkable visions of John !!

[Rev. 4:5] And out of the throne.. seven lamps of fire burning before the throne which are the SEVEN SPIRITS OF GOD. And before the throne was a SEA OF GLASS like unto crystal, and around the throne were four BEASTS FULL OF EYES BEFORE AND BEHIND: And the first beast was like a lion. And the second one was like a calf. And the third beast has the face of a man. And the fourth beast was like a flying eagle, each one of them has six wings and FULL OF EYES.

[Rev. 5:6] And in the midst stood a Lamb (The word "Lamb" is capitalized because it refers to Jesus whom they believe is divine and who will take the form of an animal as well as the Hindus believe that God took the form of another animal namely the cow, and he incarnated it. Christians use a capital letter as a concept of divinity for three persons: Father, Son or Lamb and Holy spirit, while in Islam there is but one deserves this capital letter: It is Allah almighty.) as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes which are the seven spirits of God. And he came and took the book out of the right hand of him that sat upon the throne. And when he had taken the book, THE FOUR BEASTS and twenty elders fell down before the Lamb, HAVING EVERY ONE OF THEM HARPS AND GOLDEN VIALS FULL OF ODORS, which are the prayers of the saints.

12 Saying with a loud voice, worthy is the Lamb, that was slain to receive power.. Blessing and honour, and glory, and power be unto him that sits upon the throne, and unto the Lamb for ever and ever. And the four beasts said A'-men.

[Rev. 12:3] There appeared.. a woman clothed with the SUN, AND THE MOON UNDER HER FEET, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars. And behold, a great red DRAGON, HAVING SEVEN HEADS and ten horns and ten crowns upon his heads.. And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman.. He cast out of his mouth water as flood after the woman.

The woman was given TWO WINGS OF A GREAT EAGLE, that she might fly into the wilderness. Then the EARTH HELPED THE WOMAN, AND THE EARTH OPENED HER MOUTH, AND SWALLOWED UP THE FLOOD which the dragon cast out of his mouth.

[Rev. 17:14] These shall make war with the LAMB, and the Lamb shall over come them, FOR HE IS THE LORD OF LORDS, AND KING OF KINGS.



to be cont. ...






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