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زهرة المودة 12.08.2010 03:15

Episode 38
According to the gospels, what were the last words of Jesus before he died?
1- Father, into thy hands I commit my spirit!
Luke 23 )New International Version)
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...23&version=NIV
46Jesus called out with a loud voice, "Father, into your hands I commit my spirit." When he had said this, he breathed his last.
2- "It is finished"
John 19 )New International Version)
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...19&version=NIV

30When he had received the drink, Jesus said, "It is finished." With that, he bowed his head and gave up his spirit.

زهرة المودة 12.08.2010 03:17

Episode 39
Matthew didn’t write the Gospel of Matthew!
Matthew 9 )New International Version)

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...09&version=NIV
9As Jesus went on from there, he saw a man named Matthew sitting at the tax collector's booth. "Follow me," he told him, and Matthew got up and followed him.
O People of the Cross where are your brains?????

زهرة المودة 12.08.2010 03:19

Episode 40
Luke had never seen jesus

Luke 1 )New International Version)
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...01&version=NIV

1Many have undertaken to draw up an account of the things that have been fulfilled among us, 2just as they were handed down to us by those who from the first were eyewitnesses and servants of the word. 3Therefore, since I myself have carefully investigated everything from the beginning, it seemed good also to me to write an orderly account for you, most
As you can see that luke ( who was not one of the twelve Disciples and didn’t meet jesus at all) was not a witness to the life of jesus (peace be upon him) and that the information was gathered from eyewitnesses, and that the words are not inspired to him from God almighty

زهرة المودة 12.08.2010 03:23

Episode 41

How many singers accompanied the assembly?

1- Two hundred
Ezra 2)New International Version)

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...02&version=NIV
65 besides their 7,337 menservants and maidservants; and they also had 200 men and women singers


2- Two hundred and forty-five
Nehemiah 7 )New International Version)
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...07&version=NIV


67 besides their 7,337 menservants and maidservants; and they also had 245 men and women singers

زهرة المودة 12.08.2010 03:26

Episode 42

people the Gospel between your hands was written after the raise of Christ
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It is well known that the first Christians Gospel is the Gospel of Mark, which was written about 60-75 AD.
That is forty years after the raise of Christ and that means that even Christ himself knows nothing about the Gospel that exists between their hands
!

So how did they explain that ?

Mark 8 )New International Version)
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...08&version=NIV

35For whoever wants to save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for me and for the gospel will save it
Matthew 26 )New International Version)
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...26&version=NIV


13I tell you the truth, wherever this gospel is preached throughout the world, what she has done will also be told, in memory of her."
But as we can see that the Gospel Between our hands those days is not the one that was with Christ
So where is the Gospel of Christ
????


Where is the Gospel that Christ was talking about ???
Their was a Gospel with him but where can we find it now ??

There was a gospel before the raise of Christ . so where is that Gospel ?
Not the Gospels of Mark , Luke , Matthew and John that were written years latter after the raise of Christ
What does the Quran say about that ?
When was the Gospel handled to Christ before or after his raise ?

Surah 5
110. Then will Allah say: "O Jesus the son of Mary! Recount My favour to thee and to thy mother. Behold! I strengthened thee with the holy spirit, so that thou didst speak to the people in childhood and in maturity. Behold! I taught thee the Book and Wisdom, the Law and the Gospel and behold! thou makest out of clay, as it were, the figure of a bird, by My leave, and thou breathest into it and it becometh a bird by My leave, and thou healest those born blind, and the lepers, by My leave. And behold! thou bringest forth the dead by My leave. And behold! I did restrain the Children of Israel from (violence to) thee when thou didst show them the clear Signs, and the unbelievers among them said: 'This is nothing but evident magic
.'


So we can’t believe in the Gospel until they Bring the Gospel of Christ and not the Gospels of Mark , Luke , Matthew and John

زهرة المودة 12.08.2010 03:28

Episode 43
The Bible denies the idea of inherited sin
Deuteronomy 24 )New International Version)
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...24&version=NIV
16 Fathers shall not be put to death for their children, nor children put to death for their fathers; each is to die for his own sin.
Jeremiah 31 )New International Version)

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...31&version=NIV
29 "In those days people will no longer say,
'The fathers have eaten sour grapes,
and the children's teeth are set on edge.'
30 Instead, everyone will die for his own sin; whoever eats sour grapes—his own teeth will be set on edge.

Ezekiel 18 )New International Version)
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...18&version=NIV

19 "Yet you ask, 'Why does the son not share the guilt of his father?' Since the son has done what is just and right and has been careful to keep all my decrees, he will surely live. 20 The soul who sins is the one who will die. The son will not share the guilt of the father, nor will the father share the guilt of the son. The righteousness of the righteous man will be credited to him, and the wickedness of the wicked will be charged against him

زهرة المودة 12.08.2010 13:48

Episode 44

The last prophet in the bible


If we take a look at the last chapter in th e old testament and then take a look at the last paragraph in this chapter , we’ll find something strange.
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Malachi 4 )King James Version)


http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...04&version=KJV


5Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD:
6And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse.

The name of the last prophet is Elijah
So christians please tell me where is Elijah ???
They will say that Elijah is John


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Tell them , but you believe that paul came after John
That means that John is not the last prophet and that God’s revelation didn’t stop
.

And even John himself admitted that he is not Elijah

John 1 )New International Version)


http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...01&version=NIV


19Now this was John's testimony when the Jews of Jerusalem sent priests and Levites to ask him who he was. 20He did not fail to confess, but confessed freely, "I am not the Christ.[g]"
21They asked him, "Then who are you? Are you Elijah?"
He said, "I am not."
"Are you the Prophet?"
He answered, "No
."
22Finally they said, "Who are you? Give us an answer to take back to those who sent us. What do you say about yourself?"
23John replied in the words of Isaiah the prophet, "I am the voice of one calling in the desert, 'Make straight the way for the Lord.' "[h]
24Now some Pharisees who had been sent 25questioned him, "Why then do you baptize if you are not the Christ, nor Elijah, nor the Prophet?"


And you still pray and say in your prayers

Matthew 6 )New International Version)


http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...+6&version=NIV


9" 'Our Father in heaven,
hallowed be your name,
10your kingdom come,
your will be done
on earth as it is in heaven
.

Has not the kingdom of God comes to you yet ??

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Of course it didn't come yet and will come at the end of time
And Christ didn’t say that john was the last prophet but see what Jesus said
John 14 )New International Version)


http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...14&version=NIV


26But the Counselor, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you all things and will remind you of everything I have said to you

John 15 )New International Version)


http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...15&version=NIV


26"When the Counselor comes, whom I will send to you from the Father, the Spirit of truth who goes out from the Father, he will testify about me

This is the description of Christ to the last prophet ?
I will not say that Muhammad (peace be upon him ) is the last prophet
But please Christians tell me who is the last prophet ?
Who is the Counselor ?

And I have some questions to every Christian who is looking for the right way

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Isaiah 21 )New International Version)

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...21&version=NIV


A Prophecy Against Arabia
13 An oracle concerning Arabia
:
You caravans of Dedanites,
who camp in the thickets of Arabia,

Where is this prophecy that comes from Arabia ?
Have you heard about any prophet from Arabia but prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him ) ?

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Isaiah 29 )New American Standard Bible)


http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...9&version=NASB


12Then the book will be given to the one who is illiterate, saying, "Please read this." And he will say, "I cannot read."
13Then the Lord said,
"Because (S)this people draw near with their words
And honor Me with their lip service,
But they remove their hearts far from Me,
And their reverence for Me consists of tradition learned by rote,

Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) was illiterate. His entire life he never learned to read nor write. The exact circumstances of this first revelation were as follows: It was the habit of Muhammad (peace be upon him) to frequently remove himself from the midst of his fellow Arabs and their heathenistic actions and spend many days secluded in the cave of "Hiraa" in the mountains of Makkah where he would pray to God according to the religion of Abraham (peace be upon him). After many years of this, and having reached the age of forty (610AD), the angel Gabriel suddenly appeared before him and ordered him to "Iqra!" (read, recite, repeat, proclaim). Muhammad (peace be upon him), in his terror thought he was being asked to read, so he stammered: "I am unlettered." The angel Gabriel again ordered him to "Iqra!" Muhammad (peace be upon him) again replied: "I am unlettered." The angel Gabriel now took a firm hold of him and commanded him "Iqraa in the name of Allah who created!". Now Muhammad (peace be upon him) began to understand that he was not being asked to read, but to recite, to repeat. He began to repeat after him, and Gabriel revealed to him the first verses of the Qur'an, those at the beginning of the chapter of Al-Alak(96):
"Read(Iqraa): In the name of your Lord who created, Created man from a clot. Read(Iqraa): And your Lord is the Most Bounteous, Who teaches by the pen, Teaches man that which he knew not." (The noble Qur'an, Al-Alak(96):1-5)
Much even more


اقتباس:


What is the black building in macca & why muslims go to hajj

The black stone building in macca is the building that was builded by Abraham & his son Ishmael _ The father of arabs

It was the first house built to worship the One God
Mecca is the spot where God sent Hagar and her suckling child to live….. a decade before the birth of Isaac

Genesis 21

15 When the water in the skin was gone, she put the boy under one of the bushes. 16 Then she went off and sat down nearby, about a bowshot away, for she thought, "I cannot watch the boy die." And as she sat there nearby, she began to sob
17 God heard the boy crying, and the angel of God called to Hagar from heaven and said to her, "What is the matter, Hagar? Do not be afraid; God has heard the boy crying as he lies there. 18 Lift the boy up and take him by the hand, for I will make him into a great nation."
19 Then God opened her eyes and she saw a well of water. So she went and filled the skin with water and gave the boy a drink.
20 God was with the boy as he grew up. He lived in the desert and became an archer. 21 While he was living in the Desert of Paran


The black stoned building in Mecca is called the Kaaba and it is located right beside the miraculous water well.
Muslim men and women can worship anywhere in the Kaaba Mosque complex and drink the Holy water at anytime of the day or night.
Muslims drink from this blessed water well and perform prayers in the holiest of holy places built by Abraham.

THE HOUSE OF BACCA ( MACCA ) IN QURAAN ( HOLY BOOK OF MUSLIMS ) AND IN THE BIBLE

QURAAN _AMIRAMITES
3:96 The first house established for the people is the one in Bacca; a blessed beacon for all the people.
3:97 In it are clear signs: the station of Abraham. Anyone who enters it shall be granted safe passage. The people owe it to GOD that they shall observe Hajj to this house, when they can afford it. As for those who disbelieve, GOD does not need anyone

BIBLE _ PSALM84

4 Blessed are those who dwell in your house
they are ever praising you
Selah
5 Blessed are those whose strength is in you
who have set their hearts on pilgrimage
6 As they pass through the Valley of Baca
they make it a place of springs;
the autumn rains also cover it with pools

AS YOU SEE THE BOTH TEXTS EITHER IN QURAAN OR IN BIBLE TALK ABOUT THE SAME THING WHICH IS THE HOUSE PRESENT IN BACCA .. BACCA IS THE OTHER COMMON NAME OF MECCA AND THIS IS THE HOUSE TO WHICH MUSLIMS TRAVEL FOR HAJJ




Corinthians1 : 13)New American Standard Bible)
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...3&version=NASB

9For we know in part and we prophesy in part;
10but when the perfect comes, the partial will be done away
.

Corinthians1 : 13)New International Version)
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...13&version=NIV

. 9For we know in part and we prophesy in part, 10but when perfection comes, the imperfect disappears.

Have the perfect comes to you or not yet ?
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The Hidden Truth
http://www.answering-christianity.co...at_prophet.htm

زهرة المودة 12.08.2010 13:50

Episode 47
Who wrote the Torah?
They will tell you that the writter of the Torah is of course the Messenger of Allah Moses
Tell them How Moses wrote the following?

Deuteronomy 34 )King James Version)
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...34&version=KJV
5So Moses the servant of the LORD died there in the land of Moab, according to the word of the LORD.

زهرة المودة 12.08.2010 13:51

Episode 48

Who wrote the Book of Joshua?

They will tell you Joshua son of Nun
Ask them how Joshua wrote the following
?


Joshua 24 )King James Version)
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...24&version=KJV
29And it came to pass after these things, that Joshua the son of Nun, the servant of the LORD, died, being an hundred and ten years old.

زهرة المودة 12.08.2010 13:54

Episode 49


When did God created the light
?
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Genesis 1 )King James Version)


http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...01&version=KJV


2And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
3And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
4And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.
5And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.

First how did God saw that the light is good after he created it ? don’t he know what he creates before the creation?

So, did it came with him like that by chance ???

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Genesis 1 )King James Version)

12And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

How they believe that God created plants before the sun?
Don’t they know anything about biology???


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Genesis 1 )King James Version)


14And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:
15And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.
16And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.
17And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,
18And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.
19And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.

First, if the lights were created on the fourth day with the stars - and this is something normal because the sun and the remaining stars are the source of light – but what has been created in the first day ?????????????

So as we see above that God created the sun and the moon , after creating the earth , and this is against the main concepts in the formation of the elements of the solar system . But according to science, the earth was one part with the sun and then they Separated from each other by big bang


And they claim that Christianity is the religion of science

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The Big Bang Theory and the Cosmic Crunch in the Noble Quran


http://www.answering-christianity.com/hot_gas.htm


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